Oxygen, your over-saturation of this show is quite nauseating. Who on earth is interested in the staged, fabricated antics of this pair of home-wreckers?--only the mindless cult of celebrity-worshipping lemmings. Our sadly decaying society of greed, materialism and shallow obsession does not need this braincandy.

Where's the attraction ? He's a no-talent opportunist, abandoning his family for fame and fortune--and she's a no-talent spoiled, rich girl-- neither appear to have any morals. Watching them pretend to avoid the Papparazzi that they can't stop talking about or arranging to have follow them is quite amusing. Listening to her discuss her "career as a celebrity" ( ie, those who seek to be famous for being famous ) is laughable. And Tori's money problems ? Sure, she only inherited 800,000 so far. Yes, that's rough, especially in this economy. We should pity the offspring of this pair of shallow, selfish airheads--especially his "former" family.

Please rethink the message you're sending with this kind of programming.

Why don't you mind your own business? If they both left their marriages for other marriages than the previous marriages were obviously not good marriages because if not then that wouldn't have happened. The previous marriages had already been over emotionally, but they were both still legally married that's why they had to divorce. So what if they did that? People make mistakes, but it's human. No one is perfect. It's their marriage, NOT YOURS. Who are you to judge them?

You call Tori a homewrecker, but remember it takes two to tango.

Dean's Ex wrote a book and I agree when they said, "It's opportunistic and undignified that she would want to exploit her former marriage for monetary gain." Stop feeling sorry for the Ex, she wrote a book and got $.

Yes, her dad had money and was very successful, but that does not make her a spoiled person. From what I've seen she is making a good effort at moving on with her life and not complaining about what her situation was when she only inherited $800,000. That is not enough to make ends meet in LA, you should do some research. Think of the taxes, bills, groceries and all of the other things she has to pay.

I actually love the books Tori has written and I love the show. It's very entertaining. If she wasn't as interesting as you say then you wouldn't have wasted your time by joining these message boards to insult her and her life that at the end of the day you know nothing about. You're judging her based on your ignorance and on the footage you see on TV.

Of course I don't know her/them. And, neither do you ! How can you possibly be offended over a stranger's dislike of people YOU DON'T KNOW, WILL NEVER KNOW, and who would probably never give you the time of day! Can't you tell when you're watching a staged production couched as "reality" TV? This is a public forum, and anyone can express their opinion here. That's mine, and is no doubt shared by anyone with brains and an ounce of common sense. And, it was directed to Oxygen, not to YOU personally.

Yes, I watched the show--several episodes, in fact. Though, it only took about 20 minutes to formulate my opinion. OF course their marriage, past acts, current behaviour, motivations and anything else about their so-called private lives will be JUDGED--what do you think they're doing this show for anyway ? It generates interest from people who would rather be spectators in someone else's life ( staged or not) than go about the business of improving and enriching their own ! Sound familiar? Wake up! These people are doing this show to magnify their own celebrity status, which adds up to dollars, attention, and lots of perks. They don't actually CARE what you or I or anyone else thinks, as long as they watch, so the ratings stay high and equal advertising dollars. Didn't you notice Dean complaining about the fans they allowed into their personal yard sale "pawing" all over Tori's precious belongings? They want fans to read about them, watch this piffle, and keep them famous. Fame = money, dear. They just don't want them ( you ) in their house, pawing over their stuff ! While some famous persons are humble and grateful for fans, many are not--and just enjoy using them to make money and stay famous. Guess which category these two fall into ? LOL!

I hope Oxygen loses money on this one, and yanks it ! Meanwhile, you need to get a life !

If it was intended for Oxyen then you would have e-mailed them, not posted it on a public forum. OF COURSE You're going to get a response, this is the Tori & Dean message board and they have fans who will want to reply to your post. DUH!

Hahaha, on the contrary, I think YOU should get a life.

Well good for you GETSOMESENSE, you watched the show and formulated your opinion, which we are all entitled to. Tori & Dean are simply providing entertainment for people to watch, it's what they've chosen to do with their lives and is their passion. So more power to them if they make millions along the way, there are others doing the same thing.

I however don't hope Oxy loses money on this show and really don't believe they'll yank it. There's something to be said about a show that can survive up to four seasons. IMO this show is hilarious to watch and many of us can relate to the struggles, humor and drama that come from the show.

I hope this can continue to be a productive debate. I think we are all aware that not everyone will enjoy the show as much as others do.

i'll say it AGAIN!! if you don't like them turn the channel and keep your big mouth opinons to your self....obviously you have NO LIFE if this is all you do is obviously watch the show and then whine about it.............GET A LIFE,Moron

Quite obviously, you've already distinguished yourself as a shallow person, who lives vicariously ( look it up ) through celebrities who are out of your reach and whom you'll never know or REALLY know anything about, either. Do you ever ask yourself why? Is your own life that unfulfilling and empty--why not "live out loud" yourself ? If you watch for pure entertainment, that's fine--but why then do you feel the need to attack others who don't share your enjoyment ?

The sad thing is that people like you are ruining this country (and much of the world) with your ignorant obsessions with the rich and famous. (Yes, Missme,I've lived in Los Angeles, and I just moved from Santa Barbara, CA to San Francisco, CA--two of the most expensive cities in the US. Yes, ANYONE can live very, very well on close to a million dollar inheritance, even in LA. Get serious.) Tori spends more on clothes and shoes than you will make over a lifetime--did you see her closet and her private warehouse of storage ? That's called being spoiled, but of course--it's not really her fault, either. She was raised that way. Perhaps underneath it all she's a nice person--who knows ? Not me, and not you, either. My objection was to the glorification and glamourisation of her/their lifestyle and values.

I'm sure that in your narrow view, nothing these two people can do will ever turn you against them, because you are star-struck. Even dumping their respective spouses and children, and then parading their "new family" on TV to the chagrin of those they have abandoned is just fine in your view. It's not entirely your fault, however--you, like millions of others, have been duped by the Hollywood star-making machinery ( to quote Joni Mitchell, who did and does know the difference between talent and hype ). You have been brainwashed to believe that these people are actually "special" and more important than others, including yourself--so therefore entitled to wealth and power and adulation. The facts belie this. But, the powers that be at Oxygen, the "stars" themselves and all those who make a living off of their self-promotional antics are taking advantage of your gullibility. They count on people like you to shell out your hard-earned dollars for silly celebrity bios, and to boost the ratings of mindless "reality" shows ( which are nothing close to reality). They count on you not to have a meaningful, satisfying life of your own and some real self-worth--and to be willing to drool over these celebrities while they all line their pockets and deepen the moral canyon into which our society is descending.Do you really think it matters in the real world that Tori Spelling can't live on $800,000 ? This country and the world are facing serious issues--and 100 million in the US vote for American Idol ( and probably you're one of them)--yet far fewer vote in crucial elections.

I have nothing against Tori or Dean, and in fact I hope that they use their celebrity to do good works in the world--and to raise honest, caring children who will contribute meaningfully to society. However, I believe that Oxygen and all other channels continuously promoting these ridiculous reality shows should do a more responsible job of programming. Call me any name you like, it makes no difference--but ask yourself WHY these people are so important to you that you're willing to call strangers names over their differing opinions ? Do some actual thinking.

If you dont like them, don't watch the show. Don't lot onto their websites, if you hate them so much, why spend so much time obsessing over them having a show. there are so many shows out there. turn the channel and watch something else and leave the people alone who actually like the show. If we all liked the same thing, there would only be one station on tv. so get a life and if you dont' like something, don't waste time bashing it. it makes pepole hate you.

Sigh.......your reply is TOO predictable. Typical of the lack of comprehension shown by most who would follow this tripe--you have missed my point ENTIRELY. I won't be watching the show, of course--I have far more valuable things to do with my time and energy. I don't actually watch much TV--too busy reading or living my life. When I do, it's generally PBS, science and history programs, and serious news--not Infotainment.

My concern, if you had read or understood ANY of my posts, is that Oxygen and any other money-making entity sponsoring this kind of nonsense is damaging society with this kind of mindless programming. (And, by the way, the boards are set up for public comment on the channel and its programming--do a little reading ! This is not a private Tori and Dean Fan Club, though I'm sure you can find one online or start your own if you only want to talk to other "fans". You won't find me there.)

If people like you must worship the famous and be enthralled by their every move--then let's have some programming that tracks the efforts and deeds of truly remarkable famous people. People who do have values,morals, abilities and actual accomplishments--the list is long and includes greath leaders, thinkers, teachers, etc. Not people who are famous for being rich, privileged, handed third-rate "acting" careers and exploiting celebrity-itis for personal and financial gain.

These days, people are mindless enough--they have a lack of general knowledge, intellectual curiosity, ever-shortening attention spans, and are no longer being taught critical thinking skills. These are the skills necessary to making good decisions, and avoiding being manipulated--and for an actual debate--you know, with others who may not agree with you. Basically, the world is going downhill, fast--and I'd be very interested in Tori and Dean if they were using their popularity for the common good instead of exploitation. They are blessed to be rich and famous and should "give back" to the world that has so blessed them, if not for their own sakes, than for those of their children who will have to live in this declining society.

Thank you for your concern about my personal popularity. You'd be quite surprised. No one that I care about or admire "hates" me--quite the opposite, in fact. You know nothing about me, and your opinion of me matters not at all. My opinion, I will repeat, is about Oxygen's choice of programming--they have a responsibility to uplift the society, not degrade it further. Regardless of the brainwashing that tells you so, celebrities are NOT "special" and better than anyone else--they're just luckier in many ways. (The smarter ones, like George Clooney, KNOW this and acknowledge it constantly.) And, many of them are also deeply troubled and unhappy--because they're just humans, like you or me.

So, get a clue and READ other people's posts with an eye to actually understanding them, before you have another knee-jerk over-reaction. Believe me, Tori and Dean don't need YOU to defend them, and don't care that you do, or who you are or anything about you at all. Wake up! If you find Tori and Dean entertaining, so be it--that's your taste. Just don't take it SO seriously that you need to attack others who don't agree with your taste. I'd still like to see this show, and all other mindless, staged "reality" shows yanked and replaced with genuinely stimulating programming.


I'm sure you won't understand, but have a nice day !

LMAO!!

Sounds like you agree.....it should be taken off the air !

Actually this show isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Her whinning is tedious , you know having to balance the family life, her career , etc. etc. with the help of a NANNY and friends that are so supportive they need to get a life of their own.
Wow, now I really feel bad that their house isn't selling. $800,000.00? Cry me a river. LA or not they aren't suffering -- the parties she throws would bankrupt most people. What exactly does Dean do? They make lots of $$$ keeping you folks entertained by living vicariously through their life. Probably my biggest complaint is their constant whinning about the papparzi --- they air their lives on national tv and complain about their pics being taken??? I love when celebrities do that --- let's not forget that is the price they pay for making the big bucks.
It's certainly not as bad as some shows and clearly there is a following for them but let's not forget that most families juggle far more on a lot less and complain way less.

So don't watch the show. I never have (and never will) understand people who get all worked up over a television show. Turn the channel if you don't like what you see!

and i don't understand ( and never will) the people who have a problem with others coming here and expressing their opinions whether they like a show or not. uhh...hello....that's what these forums are for.

Even though that is kinda harsh, I do wish for Tori and Dean's show to be pulled off. I mainly wish this because they are taking over the Tyra Show and I watch that every night at 11, but noooo all of a sudden Tori and Dean is on at 11 and I am highly upset. I dont know anything about them and I really don't wanna know anything about them. I do however, respect the fact that they want to try something new, just don't interrupt my programs.

I like the show very much. It's just entertainment to me and if I can relate in any way- so be it, if not, so be it. They are celebrities- so all the "quirks" with that I let go. I just think if I were in their shoes- honestly- how would I be? Probably pretty similar if that's all I knew.
No, I don't want it pulled. It's better than all of those VH1 Rock of...... shows that are completely on overkill. If I don't like something, I pick up that device called a remote and change the channel.

......Uh.....again---NOT worked up over the show, fed up with the GENRE--the entire range of so-called "reality" shows are neither real nor inspirational in any meaningful sense. Rather, they're exploitative--and purposefully so. I originally posted here to comment to Oxygen about their irresponsible promotion of T & D, and shows like this. BUT I do not have anything against these two people personally, since I don't know them. (And, anyone who thinks they know them from watching the show,should be aware that the editing is so aggressive that's it's actually "choppy" to view. So, you're NOT seeing more than you ARE seeing/hearing, and that's intentional, of course--to create a desired perception in the audience. )

Obviously, Tori's rarified upbringing has resulted in a genuine sense of insecurity for her--and that's a shame. Fame, money, and projecting an image of the perfect little family will not fill that void. Growing up with money and privilege ( which I did myself, though not on THAT scale) does not solve all problems in life, or automatically generate self-esteem in children, period. Too many people think that giving their kids everything means money, rather than the more important gifts of quality attention, unconditional love, and discipline. I don't doubt that she suffers still from the emotional neglect of her otherwise-focused parents--and to repeat, I hope she does a better emotional job with her own kids. However, this woman has a LONG way to go to learn something about real life as most people live it, and I'll save my compassion for those good souls in this world who really suffer in terrible conditions.

As for Dean, any man who dumps his wife and children to chase after a meal ticket in the form of another woman, and then declines financial responsibility for his newly adopted daughter should not be admired for being one-half of a Hollywood "It" couple. I'm sure his kids in Canada are already scarred by their father's betrayal. Tori SHOULD worry that this man will soon grow bored and find himself another famous woman to boost his career and ego, and support him in style financially. It's working for him so far.

Here's a quote of Dean's dumped ex-wife,Mary Jo Eustace, from the site Celebamour.com :

Eustace was ordered to leave the MuchMusic awards in Toronto after the billionaire heiress-actress threw a fit. “Tori, who was presenting, told the organizers either Mary Jo must go or she would,” said gossip columnist Shinan Govani, who escorted Eustace. “So we were secretly taken to an adjoining building to see it on TV, along with our own waiter and wine and shrimp.” As they watched, Spelling joked to the audience how great it is being married to a Canadian: “They’re a lot nicer and they have nasty ex-wives who write tellall books. What more could a girl ask for?”

Snapped Eustace to Govani: “Welcome to my life. I’m up against a dynasty.”


Clearly, these two people are NOT role-model material, so I'd appreciate far less of their influence on those gullible members of the public who cannot seem to distinguish between reality and propaganda, role models and celebrities.

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SO, flame away if you must! Yes, my first post was a bit harsh towards these two--but that's my reading of them. I was and am more deeply annoyed with Oxygen , and their advertising overkill of this show every five minutes--and on multiple channels. I did watch a few episodes, but haven't since--and don't plan to. If others find it entertaining so be it---but I am not going to stop airing my opinion to Oxygen on issues like this one.

I don't necessarily like Tori or Dean by themselves. I don't like how their relationship came about...in an ideal world, they should have divorced first before starting anything with anybody else. Oh well. Separately, I can't stand them..but the show is endearing. Nobody forces me to watch it. I'm not sure I'll be watchng it this whole season. One can only listen so much to her insecurities, questions, concerns, their money problems...which no average person would ever understand as so many average people out there are losing their homes....

But I do agree. This board is here not as a pro-Tori and Dean board, it's a board about the show. Whether you like it or not, this board is here--it's not a fan forum board. So, rather than get angry at those that post negatively about the show...let's all ask, WHY don't you like the show. And learn from it.

Personally, I'm tired of hearing of the problems Tori has with her mother. Get over it. ALL of us have mother problems...life is not perfect. But you know what Tori? Yours is probably more perfect than what most of us posting here have had to experience....get over it...

u are either the ex-wife, ex-husband or a friend of the exes. there should be no reason for u to hate the show that much. When I don't like a show, I don't watch it nor spend my time writing about it. I don't think it's the show that u don't like per say. Like I said in the previous poll; I think u have a personal affair with either Tori or Dean u are taking it on the show. U need to bleed where the cut is.

If you're talking to me ( hard to tell to whom this one is directed ), you could not be more wrong. Don't know any of these people, as I've stated several times now--and have no personal axe to grind here --don't be ridiculous. Some of us actually do not enjoy seeing these "reality" shows taking over all programming--they have reached epidemic proportion in programming. Learn to read ( and write ) and understand what you're actually reading ( if you can ).

This couple is so bogus!!! It won't be long before the reality curse destroys their marriage like they destroyed the ones they were in before!!! However, i think the kids are cute and so is Dean!!! But, Tori looks a hot a** mess! Just saw her on mediatakeout.com with her deflated implants and that jacked up nose!! DAMN UGLY BIOTCH!!!

You've made a good point regarding Tori's insecurity and I noticed it more in the S4 premiere than in previous seasons. It is a shame, when you expect everything to be perfect, you set yourself up for disappointment. The money and fame can make life easier but does not provide what the heart needs. She's living in the fastlane, typical Hollywood which is not a healthy lifestyle. It's taken a toll on many of the rich & famous.

There's nothing wrong with wanting a great life for yourself and family and I believe that's why Tori works so hard. Although she does seem overwhelmed. For years women have been driven to "do it all" and IMO that's alot of pressure because we see so many women "doing it all". She's young and healthy so hopefully everything will work out and she'll get her fears/stress under control.

And yes there are so many people in the world going through so much more, it's simply a matter of how you deal.

No you freak, I do not agree with you... I was quoting YOU. You are a fool, now get off this message board and go feed your 54 cats.

It's one thing to overwork yourself so your family can live, and another so they can live luxurious lives.

It's okay that she wants to do that' she may never achieve the luxury she grew up in, but she could cut back a little and they'd be damn happy and more than comfortable. The kids wouldn't know the difference.

(Yawn)........ you are the last person here who should be calling others names. Why all the anger ? And, no, you did not "quote" ME, you either fabricated that "quote" entirely, or took it from someone else's post. I was willing to overlook your illiteracy, but seriously---go learn how to read, it would be a far better use of your time. And, er--wasn't it YOU who posted the cat pic ? Uh huh.

[color="#FF0000"][/color]Hey 'Getsomesense', maybe you should 'get some life'!

LMAO!

MissMe, don't you have anything more useful to contribute to the discussion here ? I thought I read on here somewhere that you are a mother ( and grandmother ). If so, these issues should concern you.

If you actually read my posts (rather than just cheering on those with grade-school mentalities who enjoy flaming me), and the thoughtful comments of many others on this thread, you'd see that this is a discussion of larger issues, including the impact of reality TV on the society that your own kids are living in--and on values, etc.

One would think that if you truly are a parent/grandparent, a little more maturity would hopefully prevail in your comments.

Have a great day ......

I doubt that you are a Siren, first, and HOPE that you are not an RN, as in Registered Nurse. And, next time, could you tone down the highbrow ideas and eloquent expression a bit.......you almost made a point.

So I have a cat in my sig, so what?

You're the foolish idiot who is taking the time to post about a show you hate over and over and over and over and over and over. What kind of person does something like that? Do you also go to stores that you hate protesting outside that they should be shut down? Do you yell and scream at your neighbors that you dislike that they should move away? Do you run around the streets leaving "Sell your car" posters on people's windshields because it's not a car you are fond of? I bet you do, moron.

And yes, that was a quote from you, just because you didn't post it yourself doesn't mean it wasn't your quote. It's exactly what you did. Came to the board of a show you hate just to post about how much you hate it. Seems like you have some mental problems.

Thank you for admitting that you invented a quote which you then attributed to me----behaviour that shows some REAL logic and sanity. You may also wish to slow down on the use of "fool" and "idiot", when addressing others whom you do not know, clearly do not understand, and are hot to predict the behaviour of outside of this forum. So let's see: you make up quotes, call posters names and decide what else you imagine they do that you may find offensive. Hmmm---THERE'S a productive use of time. You might benefit from anger-management courses, a better way to cope with all that hot air between the ears.

No, I'm not a mother or a grandmother. Idiot. I'm a college student and I can post a smiley emoticon if I feel like it! Freedom of speech. You wouldn't want your speech to be censored either, right? It's a public forum. I won't reply to you anymore, you're not worth my time.

Exactly, the kids would be happy as long as their environment is positive/happy. The luxurious big house thing, they won't even notice. What they will notice is stress, kids pick up on emotions. During the premiere Oxy did a poll about Tori's overload. The poll results suggested she drop a project.

Ok, I'll call you an imbecilic shit for brains putrid cretin. Better?

Use your time for something else instead of complaining online about a show you hate... freak of nature.

I made the quote because it was most likely what was going through your feeble mind when you decided to log on to this site and make inane posts about something you hate. You are a grade A loser.

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Ok, I'll call you an imbecilic shit for brains putrid cretin. Better?

Use your time for something else instead of complaining online about a show you hate... freak of nature.

I made the quote because it was most likely what was going through your feeble mind when you decided to log on to this site and make inane posts about something you hate. You are a grade A loser.


Calm down ! You could cause yourself a stroke with all that hostility. But, thank you anyway for displaying your lack of logic, comprehension and manners for all here to see.

Have a great day, you sound like you could use one !

LMAO you really are mentally deranged. Have fun running all over the net complaining to TV networks about shows you hate. I kind of feel sorry for you in a way because you were obviously dropped on your head at an early age.

I'll just leave you to your silly rantings because it's obvious there is something wrong with you.

Well......that's why I ASKED you if you were a mother/grandmother. I apologize for confusing you with a different brainless lemming who blindly supports this kind of programming.My mistake. However, the college student identification sadly explains the immaturity; don't worry, as you grow up a bit hopefully you'll be able to understand ALL the points made in a thread like this one. Don't drop out of school, though !

Yes, run along so that those here who are able to read and think can continue the interesting discussion that you have interrupted with your insane outbursts.

Thank you to the posters who responded in support of freedom of expression on this forum. ( You know who you are )........and those who took a moment to examine the impact of "reality" programming on society, as well as some of the issues that arose out of those posts. Obviously I agree with those who felt that Tori's issues are genuine, but that she needs a dose of reality herself about life in the world outside the celebrity-bubble. Perhaps her kids will enable her to view things in a wider perspective, as kids can be great teachers. She'd do well to remove her family from the limelight, and protect their privacy in order to forge and maintain stronger bonds--being on a "reality" show, no matter how contrived and lucrative, has to be draining. I caught a preview of the new season ( how could anyone avoid it ?!) and she does not look well.....that is a shame.

Have a good day, all !

Thank you, and I agree.......too much pressure on women to do it all and be it all. I still have hopes that she will gain wisdom as she goes along....THAT would be something positive to impart to viewers.

IMO..we all gain wisdom as we "go along"...(live our lives)...I know some people don't..but we are suppose to...that is how we grow...is by the experiences in our life. A person who has been through things can talk until they are "blue in the face" to someone who hasn't...and it isn't going to matter..that person will do what THEY think is right at the time and learn after the experience...that whole "been there..done that" thing.
I don't think it is right to judge anyone... including Tori...she is doing what she thinks is right for her and her family. I know my parents didn't always "get it right"...but all of us kids are still here and we are doing OK..

I've been reading these posts and people are really coming down hard on Tori about her being spoiled...living large...etc...well.....LOOK AT HER PARENTS!
Our parents are our example. People think Tori knows what it is like to live on less...well....she has never had to....Duh....how would she know..(???)
Really....I mean come on...it is not that hard to figure that out...

Yes, I agree.....Tori's own reality is skewed, and time and experience may take care of that to some degree. The degree of personal growth of any person depends on many things, including life experience, level of innate self-awareness, motivation, maturity, as well as brain chemistry, etc. I hope the best for all individuals, because the more people evolve, the more they have to impart to the betterment of this world.

And, I did mention this in an earlier post--she may be spoiled and unaware of reality beyond her guilded cage, but that is not her fault. Dean may be an opportunist, but perhaps his own childhood was one of emotional and financial impoverishment.....leading him to chase after wealth, fame, status. Who knows ?As for Tori, growing up with more money than God, a mother who appears to be emotionally unavailable at the very least, and a father devoted to his Empire--AND living smack in the middle of Tinseltown would be enough to warp any individual. No one here knows Tori personally, or Dean--or the parents, ex-spouses, or friends of these people......so it's a bit silly to judge one way or the other.

My original complaint(s) were more about Oxygen promoting Tori's ( & Dean's) values and lifestyle--and not as much about these two themselves, though I admit I was a bit harsh in that first post ; BUT I also stand by my opinion ( these two are not my cup of tea ) and I don't support reality TV programming in general ( for all the reasons I've stated repeatedly above). I hope they do learn, grow and impart the best of themselves to their two adorable kids ( and their two cute pups).

I totally agree with you...I do watch reality television...I can't remember the first reality TV show....now they are all over the place....I respect your opinion

......and I yours

I think my first reality show was "The Osbournes", They're so crazy but I love em!

Exactly, it's not our job to judge someone. When I see Tori my heart really does go out to her because she really does want to get it right. It's good that she has amazing friends and Patsy. I see compassion in Tori's eyes but I also see worry. Being a Mom & Grandmother myself makes me want to tell her everything will be ok and she's a great Mom, wife, friend and actress. She should know you can only do your best and that is good enough. The rest is achieved along the way.

I like the fact that Tori and Dean have real problems: divorce, money problems (not now anyway, but they did in the beginning), children, work and so on.

I can't compare her life to mine of course but I can sympathize with her and all she's been through. Losing a parent is hard but losing a parent and not being informed of it until one of your friends see it on TV is horrible.

It's funny that I never liked her before: 90210, bad Lifetime movies, but in recent years she grew on me. I think she is very real in her series and that's why people like her now. I don't doubt she has more fans now than she did 10 years ago because of this series and showing her family on TV.

And there's nothing wrong with that .......if you find something entertaining, that's reason enough to enjoy it as long as it harms no others. I believe I said before that for pure entertainment, I don't see a problem with watching T & D, or other reality shows.

It seems the original one was MTV's "Real World", then a few years later "Survivor".
They've gotten less "real" over time, and my concern remains about those who cannot distinguish what's real, blindly follow these shows and really allow them to shape their view of the world around them. I still don't agree with the promotion of the Hollywood lifestyle or values, and am always hopeful that real world values and experiences will seep in.....and in Tori's case, that would be an education for her that would be quite valuable for her as daughter and a mother.