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MsMelis
Anyone else hear this?

http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-28-candy-sp...illed-dad-aaron

I cannot BELIEVE how hurtful and spiteful this woman is toward her own daughter! How could you say that about your own child?
Appalled
QUOTE (MsMelis @ May 28 2009, 01:54 PM) *
Anyone else hear this?

http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-28-candy-sp...illed-dad-aaron

I cannot BELIEVE how hurtful and spiteful this woman is toward her own daughter! How could you say that about your own child?


What's the timeline here? Was Aaron still alive when Tori was pregnant with Liam? I know he was alive when she hooked up with Dean.
Poem Girl
QUOTE (Appalled @ May 28 2009, 12:05 PM) *
What's the timeline here? Was Aaron still alive when Tori was pregnant with Liam? I know he was alive when she hooked up with Dean.


I think in S3 Tori talks about Liam being conceived after her Father died. She was in Toronto talking to Patsy about it. It was on last week during the marathon.
Poem Girl
Wow, those are such hurtful words. How can someone recover a relationship with words like that. Not for me to judge. I only know that a person can only take so much and when there are mean verbal attacks it's easier to stay away from the negativity, just my opinion.
Appalled
QUOTE (Poem Girl @ May 28 2009, 05:16 PM) *
Wow, those are such hurtful words. How can someone recover a relationship with words like that. Not for me to judge. I only know that a person can only take so much and when there are mean verbal attacks it's easier to stay away from the negativity, just my opinion.


Tori's no angel, and she has a bigger forum to trash her mother on.
Poem Girl
QUOTE (Appalled @ May 28 2009, 03:55 PM) *
Tori's no angel, and she has a bigger forum to trash her mother on.


I agree, she's no angel, LOL. I'm wondering if Candy would do a reality show. What can I say, it's Hollyweird.
KariAna
There is such a big difference between how Tori speaks

of her regrets about her relationship with her Mom, and

how Candy makes accusatory statements like the one

blaming Tori for her father's death. Cancer killed Aaron

Spelling. Also, the argument was between Tori and Candy.

Also, it was Candy who allowed Tori to find out that her

Father had passed away from a friend texting Tori to

tell her how sorry she was her father had passed away.

What kind of Mother releases the information that Aaron

Spelling had passed away BEFORE anyone had contacted

Tori to tell her. How crazy is this woman who believes the

world revolves around her. The need Candy has to harm

Tori is so obvious because of mean comments such as this.

Tori's book was not written to harm her Mom. She wrote the

truth from her perspective. I think that Candy would have a

lot better chance of reconciling with Tori if she just swallowed

her pride. When she gets made at the no contact she calls the

media and tells them things that don't even have to be true.

I feel very badly for Tori. I hope that she gets through this

latest mean spirited episode from Candy whole. Such hate filled

words spoken by Candy.

Kari Ana


QUOTE (Appalled @ May 28 2009, 03:55 PM) *
Tori's no angel, and she has a bigger forum to trash her mother on.

Daddisgrl
I saw it on TV last night; what a witch.
I hope Tori does not comment on this; let the world see Candy for what she is, someone making things up because her own book is doing poorly.

VERY VERY SAD.

I can't imagine Tori can heal after her fathers death; Candy keeps ripping any bandages off.
brooklynmama
Her mother has a book coming out and in order for people to take notice she has to make sure they don't forget about the problems they are having. when Tori's first book came out I don't remember her talking trash about her mother just to sell the book. Suggesting that Tori killed Aaron is the most disgusting thing a mother could do to a child. After hearing what Candy has been saying there is no doubt in my mind that Tori had it hard as a child, regardless of how rich they were. No child, no matter their age, should have to deal with such a hurtful accusation.

As far as I'm concerned, Tori should consider herself an orphan, it's less painful.
Appalled
Well, it all depends on one's personal experience. I understand the statement Candi made and she may believe that. We don't know the exact details, and while cancer may be the cause of death, he could have just stopped fighting it. It happens, I've seen it.

And Tori's been trashing her mother for years. Personally, I'd have written Tori off once she married the gold digger... oh wait, her father probably changed his will after that, and he was a shrewd businessman.

brooklynmama
Who's the gold digger??? Dean or the first hubby? I don't think Dean is the gold digger, I think they are a great couple. I feel sorry for their spouses that they had to ruin two families to be together but sometimes that's how things work out.


KariAna

Tori has spoken about the bad relationship she has with

her Mother as well as some examples of why she feels as

she does. She has not said anything as despicable as

Candy said about Tori being the reason Aaron Spelling

died. Tori was estranged from her Mother, not her father.

Also, as far as the inheritance, it is common knowledge

that Candy Spelling insisted to Aaron Spelling that the

"children" didn't need more than the around eight thousand

each that he left both Randy and Tori Spelling. Aaron

Spelling had told Tori that he had left her well provided

for. When he told her this the number was about eight

thousand so in know way had he changed his will. Of course

my source is Tori's book. Considering this amount is about

the same as Randi, Tori's Brother, received it is pretty obvious

Aaron Spelling was not angry with Tori when he passed away.

It is astounding that Candy Spelling has no problem telling

the media that she has not seen her Granddaughter Stella Doreen,

yet it appears from all that has been said that Candy hasn't

tried calling Tori to see if she can see her Granddaughter. Maybe

if Candy stopped telling the media and called Tori things might be

different. Not now that Candy has blamed Tori for Aaron Spellings

death, but before I am sure Tori would have asked her to come over.

It was bad enough that Candy couldn't be bothered to INFORM TORI

THAT HER FATHER HAD PASSED AWAY, now that she is blaming

Tori it will be very difficult for the relationship to be repaired.

Kari Ana


QUOTE (Appalled @ May 29 2009, 06:23 AM) *
Well, it all depends on one's personal experience. I understand the statement Candi made and she may believe that. We don't know the exact details, and while cancer may be the cause of death, he could have just stopped fighting it. It happens, I've seen it.

And Tori's been trashing her mother for years. Personally, I'd have written Tori off once she married the gold digger... oh wait, her father probably changed his will after that, and he was a shrewd businessman.

KariAna
Yes, Tori speaks of her Mother in ways that sometimes seems

a bit negative. However, if you compare what Tori says to

Candy's attacks it is pretty clear what is going on. You don't

hear Tori speaking about her Mother as being responsible for

things like say, Tori's Father's Death. She speaks of her

regrets and her sadness about their lack of a real relationship.

Candy is always speaking about Tori for the purpose of getting

a reaction. Tori speaks about wanting a relationship that is

strong and healthy. Candy is being punitive with her comments.

There is a huge difference. Even when Tori spoke about how

her Mother would get sea shells and put them on the beach for

her children to find. Tori wrote about this as a fond memory.

Candy seemed to read it as if Tori was trashing her for it.

It is just too bad that Candy can't swallow her pride and just call

Tori and ask to see her Grandchildren.

Kari Ana
QUOTE (Appalled @ May 28 2009, 03:55 PM) *
Tori's no angel, and she has a bigger forum to trash her mother on.

Appalled
QUOTE (KariAna @ May 29 2009, 01:49 PM) *
Yes, Tori speaks of her Mother in ways that sometimes seems

a bit negative. However, if you compare what Tori says to

Candy's attacks it is pretty clear what is going on. You don't

hear Tori speaking about her Mother as being responsible for

things like say, Tori's Father's Death. She speaks of her

regrets and her sadness about their lack of a real relationship.

Candy is always speaking about Tori for the purpose of getting

a reaction. Tori speaks about wanting a relationship that is

strong and healthy. Candy is being punitive with her comments.

There is a huge difference. Even when Tori spoke about how

her Mother would get sea shells and put them on the beach for

her children to find. Tori wrote about this as a fond memory.

Candy seemed to read it as if Tori was trashing her for it.

It is just too bad that Candy can't swallow her pride and just call

Tori and ask to see her Grandchildren.

Kari Ana



**shrug**

Whatever. Everyone will say things in their favor; no one really knows if anyone's exaggering. I take both sides with a grain of salt.
brooklynmama
They have been having problems for a long time. When Tori had her show NoTorious a few years ago Candy took offense to the Loni Anderson character. Candy thought it was a misrepresentation of her and was not at all happy. I think the problems started to escalate from there.
KariAna
Of course, it is all from one's point of view. I suppose my point is/was

that at least Tori had a positive memory she put into her book about her

Mother. All Candy does is say negative things about Tori. At least Tori

tries to show good as well as what she feels is bad.

What kind of Mother tries to harm their own child by writing that the child

is guilty of killing her Father???? That is so sick.

Kari Ana

QUOTE (Appalled @ May 29 2009, 11:58 AM) *
**shrug**

Whatever. Everyone will say things in their favor; no one really knows if anyone's exaggering. I take both sides with a grain of salt.

NoNewbie
QUOTE (MsMelis @ May 28 2009, 01:54 PM) *
Anyone else hear this?

http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-28-candy-sp...illed-dad-aaron

I cannot BELIEVE how hurtful and spiteful this woman is toward her own daughter! How could you say that about your own child?


I listened to this...and I thought..What a Bi@@tch! I wish someone would have called in and asked her about what it was SHE was doing while her husband laid there dying..(???)...I heard she wasn't being a good wife (????)... unsure.gif
ykwbstr2
<cough, cough> wasn't Candy living with another man under her roof while Aaron lay dying upstairs?
Tori is no angel, but she herself stated she could see where her father may have cotnributed to the problems between herself and her mother, albeit unintentionally.
She also said she could understand her mothers feelings from that point of view.
All Candy does is call Tori a gold digger, etc. and now she's accusing Tori of killing her father.
Don't really think Dean is a gold digger although there are things about him which irritate me about him, basically I do like him and find him entertaining.

IMO, Tori's first husband was the true gold digger, not after Aaron's money per say but after his connections and the doors he felt Aaron could open for him.
Poem Girl
QUOTE (Daddisgrl @ May 29 2009, 05:21 AM) *
I saw it on TV last night; what a witch.
I hope Tori does not comment on this; let the world see Candy for what she is, someone making things up because her own book is doing poorly.

VERY VERY SAD.

I can't imagine Tori can heal after her fathers death; Candy keeps ripping any bandages off.


OMG, I didn't see it on TV yet. Those words would leave such a deep scar.
iwarriormom
ohmy.gif huh.gif TORI SWEETIE...DONT WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT WHAT YOUR MOM SAID ON HER RADIO/INTERVIEW SHOW...YOU KNOW HER MORE THAN WE THE PUBLIC DO AND, WE SEE HER AS JEALOUS OF YOU IN EVERY WAY. THATS WHY SHE HAS SAID WHAT SHE SAID. TO "GET BACK AT YOU" LIKE A 7TH GRADE SCHOOL GIRL (very immature for a senior woman) ALSO I TRUELY THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOMETHING MENTALLY WRONG WITH HER ALL OF HER LIFE, TO FEEL THE WAY SHE FEELS ABOUT YOU. IN PUBLIC SHE PROTRAYS THE SWEET LOVING MOM WHO HAS NO IDEA AS TO WHY "HER DAUGHTER IS MAD AT HER" BUT, THATS JUST HER COVER, HER VEIL. EVERYONE CAN SEE THRU IT. SHE WANTS AND HOPES THAT EVERYONE WILL BELIEVE THAT SHES CARING AND LOVING TOWARDS YOU AND THAT THIS FEUD IS ALL YOUR FAULT! (and theres no doubt she loves you in her own "big sister way" i say this because she acts more like a jealous big sister) BUT WE ALL KNOW SHE DECIEVES...ONLY HERSELF. SWEETIE. SHE WILL NEVER CHANGE. SHE HAS A COLD HEART, YOU KNOW THAT. DONT EXPECT HER TO EVER BE WHAT SHE HAS PROVEN HERSELF TO BE...A JEALOUS BACK-STABBING WOMAN. I KNOW YOU LOVE HER AND I KNOW YOU WANT HER TO BE A LOVING, CARING, EXCEPTING MOM WHO LOVES YOU UNCONDITIONAL, MORE THAN SHE LOVES HERSELF....ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SHES WHO SHE IS. I GUESS THE BEST YOU CAN EXPECT FROM HER IS THAT SHE IS "CORDIAL" TO YOU WHEN THE TWO OF YOU DO HAPPEN TO MEET. MOVE ON SWEETIE...YOU HAVE YOUR BEAUTIFUL FAMILY TO TAKE CARE OF...KIDS GROW FAST. DONT WASTE TIME ON YOUR MOM. ALL YOU CAN HOPE FOR IS THAT SHE GET PROFESSIONAL HELP.....AND YOU CUTIE BE HAPPY BECAUSE AFTER ALL...YOUVE GOT LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO LOVE YOU. YOU ARE A GREAT MOM AND YOURE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB IN RAISING YOUR KIDS. LEARN FROM YOUR MOM'S MISTAKES AND DONT REPEAT THEM. IF YOU EVER WANT A REAL MOM...IM HERE FOR YOU. AT 58 I'M A GRANDMA NOW TO 2 SMALL BOYS AND A MOM TO 2 GROWN KIDS. MY MOM WAS JUST LIKE YOURS...I LEARNED FROM HER MISTAKES AND RAISED MY KIDS WITH LOVE, HUGS, KISSES AND SECURITY AND THEY GREW TO BE LOVING ADULTS. THERE IS HOPE.......I LOVE YOU...WISH YOU WERE MY DAUGHTER...THE NANNY RAISED YOU WELL...XOXOXOXOX'S.....MOM
P/S....IM ALSO AVAILABLE FOR BABYSITTING! OXOXOXOX'S FOR MONKEY AND LADY BUG!!!!!
MsMelis
To me, the bottomline is this --

No mother, no matter what their child has done or said, should ever publicly announce that their child "killed" their father unless they literally murdered him! If Candy was half the person she seems to think she is, she would be the bigger person and remain silent and lead her own life. The fact of the matter is that she is a fame ***** who needs to feel wanted and adored, and this is the way she is choosing to do it, rather than trying to build a relationship with her child and grandchildren. Her life would be considerably more fulfilling if she saw a shrink to get over her anger issues and actually tried to be a good mother and grandmother.
kitkat1
It was 800,000 left in the will, not 8,000.....enough for a down payment on a house in LA or to fund a project start-up, but definately not set for life.

I think Tori has been more than gracious most of the time when explaining the complicated relationship she has with her mom, and I can understand as my mom is much the same way, without the millions (or billions?). It's hard to have someone so manipulative and un-mom-like, so hard to keep being around maternal outright rejection, it's just easier to not be around it. Being constantly rejected by your own mother cuts to the core of your feelings about yourself, it really is impossible to stay around that and be sane. I totally get why she pulled away, and thus wasn't around the rest of family much, the unfortunate byproduct of saving sanity in that situation.
NoNewbie
QUOTE (MsMelis @ May 30 2009, 10:51 AM) *
To me, the bottomline is this --

No mother, no matter what their child has done or said, should ever publicly announce that their child "killed" their father unless they literally murdered him! If Candy was half the person she seems to think she is, she would be the bigger person and remain silent and lead her own life. The fact of the matter is that she is a fame ***** who needs to feel wanted and adored, and this is the way she is choosing to do it, rather than trying to build a relationship with her child and grandchildren. Her life would be considerably more fulfilling if she saw a shrink to get over her anger issues and actually tried to be a good mother and grandmother.


Yep..if Tori would have literally out-right killed him..then that is one thing..but to say such a thing ohmy.gif
Candy had posted a letter to Tori on her website around Mothers Day..saying she wanted to put everything aside and be a family..then its like if Tori doesn't jump when Candy snaps her fingers...she gives an interview bashing Tori...like she did this time.
I can't even imagine the hurt Tori felt when she heard that...OMG ohmy.gif
Candy was the one who moved her boyfriend into the mansion....with her husband lying there dying....Candy does need to shut up and see a shrink and try to be a good mom and grandmother.
brooklynmama
I think Tori is showing how strong she is right now. She's not making statements about how horrible her mother was while she was growing up. I tend to think she was because Tori seemed to be a daddy's girl and I think Candy resented the attention Tori received as a child. I don't think Tori has supermodel looks and because she looks so much like her father that might have made candy even more upset. I would even go so far as to say that Candy most likely thinks that she is more attractive than Tori and did not appreciate being second best to her daughter.

It would be very, very easy for Tori to be a spoiled Hollywood brat and go on the defensive by calling her mother names and posting blogs about her but instead she just smiles and says nothing harsh in response. My mother passed away 14 years ago and if my father ever said that I could have been responsible I think I'd react in a much different way. I can't imagine how Tori deals with this in private but I don't doubt that she is very hurt and very upset over this.
lizz
I feel for Tori i to have a mother like Tori's. I've learned the hard way that the best thing to do is to just stay out of there way. Tori your life is blessed and nothing you want from your mother she is able to give. That's on her not you. Your a great mom remember that and everything else will fall into place.
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