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coreylee
Hey Tori .........

I think your show is fun and I love the babies ...so cute ! However in my opinion.....would you please consider not putting down your mom on your show every chance you get please ? What ever happened between the two of you is between the two of you . I think it's getting old and you are not looking good doing it . Watching the show you have yet to give a decent example of exactly what it is she did to you that makes her deserve the character slaughter from you . I am starting to feel bad for her and the horrible way you treat her and the rotten example you are setting for your kids . You are not coming off as a victim at this point .
If you insist on continuing ..at least give us , the audience a good reason to support the defamation ..


michele46
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Appalled
QUOTE (michele46 @ Jul 26 2009, 05:03 PM) *
i agree, why give candy publicity, plus i like the storylines better with just TOri and dean and the kids, friends etc........


I don't think Candy was looking for publicity. Tori's just using the drama to ratchet her ratings. She's shameless.
Melba
QUOTE (coreylee @ Jul 26 2009, 10:09 PM) *
Hey Tori .........

I think your show is fun and I love the babies ...so cute ! However in my opinion.....would you please consider not putting down your mom on your show every chance you get please ? What ever happened between the two of you is between the two of you . I think it's getting old and you are not looking good doing it . Watching the show you have yet to give a decent example of exactly what it is she did to you that makes her deserve the character slaughter from you . I am starting to feel bad for her and the horrible way you treat her and the rotten example you are setting for your kids . You are not coming off as a victim at this point .
If you insist on continuing ..at least give us , the audience a good reason to support the defamation ..


I agree. The clincher for me is the finale commercials -Stella's first birthday party!!! Will Candy come or not!!! Film at eleven!!!

It's obvious it was all staged to have this big climatic moment ! and guess what, we already know Candy didn't go. And I agree with Candy, the big reconciliation should be for real and private family time, not just staged to get Tori more ratings. If I were Candy I'd wonder about the sincerity of the invitation.

And last week when Tori was in Palm Springs and crying about missing her mother. Eureka - we'll invite Mom to the birthday party!!! Wow, great idea - excuse me, don't they have phones in Palm Springs????? If she really wanted to reconcile she could have called her mother at any time this season, not wait for when it was convenient for more ratings.

It's just getting OLD.
NannySigi
QUOTE (Appalled @ Jul 26 2009, 06:13 PM) *
I don't think Candy was looking for publicity. Tori's just using the drama to ratchet her ratings. She's shameless.

ohmy.gif Tori is working through some really difficult emotional baggage that was filled for many years due to the fact that she and her mother are at opposite ends of the spectrum in depth of emotion and nurturing abilities. As she makes her way as a mother of two little ones, she has to compare what her mother did and how she wants to navigate those waters herself. Of course it is coming up in the show because she is showing her life to us. Tori needs support, that is why she loves her fans so much and vice versa. Do you think Candy is not trying to promote herself through the media? She should be mature enough to assist her daughter in childrearing as a loving grandmother under any circumstances. She's making excuses for her lack of commitment to the grandkids and to her own kids, in my humble opinion. sad.gif
Dee8112
I agree with NannySigi. I find it amazing how people seem to forget that this is suppose to be a reality show, which means what ever happens in the person life is suppose to be on camera. I guess if it was left up to some of you she wouldn't mention her mother at all. Which means it wouldn't be a reality show. Yes, I have noticed that Tori hasn't exactly stated what the issues are with her mother but last time I checked when it comes to a persons family there are many issues and they are all hard to talk about. Most of the time there is those uneasy issues that we live with but don't talk about. Its a part of life.
If you look at all the facts. Tori wrote a book about her life and she talked some what on the relationship between her and her mother. Would you have had her leave that part out? If so then it wouldn't have been about her life. Second, her mother wrote a book about her life. She wrote about Tori, she is her daughter. Would you have had her leave that out? This whole thing has turned into mother against daughter and its not Tori or Candy's making, its the media. I do feel that if either party wanted to say anything to the other they should have done that part in private as in phone, email, letter, not on TV or online. But with that said. Tori does have a reality tv show which means her life is suppose to be out there for the world to see, even the relationship/or lack there of with her mother.
In a nutshell I think this mother and daughter should put there differences a side and at least for the grand kids try to make it work. They don't have to be best friends and they probably wont but they should give it a try.
coreylee
QUOTE (Dee8112 @ Jul 27 2009, 08:35 AM) *
I agree with NannySigi. I find it amazing how people seem to forget that this is suppose to be a reality show, which means what ever happens in the person life is suppose to be on camera. I guess if it was left up to some of you she wouldn't mention her mother at all. Which means it wouldn't be a reality show. Yes, I have noticed that Tori hasn't exactly stated what the issues are with her mother but last time I checked when it comes to a persons family there are many issues and they are all hard to talk about. Most of the time there is those uneasy issues that we live with but don't talk about. Its a part of life.
If you look at all the facts. Tori wrote a book about her life and she talked some what on the relationship between her and her mother. Would you have had her leave that part out? If so then it wouldn't have been about her life. Second, her mother wrote a book about her life. She wrote about Tori, she is her daughter. Would you have had her leave that out? This whole thing has turned into mother against daughter and its not Tori or Candy's making, its the media. I do feel that if either party wanted to say anything to the other they should have done that part in private as in phone, email, letter, not on TV or online. But with that said. Tori does have a reality tv show which means her life is suppose to be out there for the world to see, even the relationship/or lack there of with her mother.
In a nutshell I think this mother and daughter should put there differences a side and at least for the grand kids try to make it work. They don't have to be best friends and they probably wont but they should give it a try.


I guess the point is it's a show about TORI'S life ,not Candy's .The baiting of her mother to participate and to create a huge storyline when it is clear the mother wants nothing to do with being on camera is clearly not a sincere form of love . It's just not nice . It's rude and self serving . ( ratings)
Just my opinion in case she reads this .
I often wonder why her brother is not even " mentioned" .
Poem Girl
QUOTE (coreylee @ Jul 26 2009, 02:09 PM) *
Hey Tori .........

I think your show is fun and I love the babies ...so cute ! However in my opinion.....would you please consider not putting down your mom on your show every chance you get please ? What ever happened between the two of you is between the two of you . I think it's getting old and you are not looking good doing it . Watching the show you have yet to give a decent example of exactly what it is she did to you that makes her deserve the character slaughter from you . I am starting to feel bad for her and the horrible way you treat her and the rotten example you are setting for your kids . You are not coming off as a victim at this point .
If you insist on continuing ..at least give us , the audience a good reason to support the defamation ..


I agree, have been watching the show since it began, the Mom bashing/whining is getting annoying. I read Tori & Candy's books, Tori bashed her Mom quite a bit but Candy didn't, only a couple of references regarding Tori as a child.
It would be nice if they settled their differences, I know sometimes that's easier said than done. But life's too short.
DerbyCityGirl
THANK YOU for starting this new thread! My thoughts exactly. I'm not a huge reality show fan, but started watching Tori & Dean Inn Love when it first aired. I thought it was really cute. Even my mother, who hardly watches anything on TV started watching. But you're right, the constant negative references to her mother are getting old. I saw nothing wrong with inviting her mother to Stella's birthday party. But that should not have been their first meeting. Who would want the first meeting of their grandchild to be on television for the world to see? I don't blame Candy for not coming. It was nothing more than a ratings ploy to do it on camera. And shame on Tori for setting it up that way. If anything, think about your children. Candy and Tori getting together and Candy meeting Stella for the first time should have been private - reality show or not. And the fact that they're making a two part series finale, all surrounding the question, "Will Candy show up?" only reaffirms that she did it just for ratings. Come on. She knew she wouldn't come. She's trying to come off as being the one who's "extending the olive branch". But in fact, she's just fueling the fire between the two of them. If they plan another season, I hope they go back to how it was in the beginning. It was a cute show then. Now it's nothing but an exploitation of the strained relationship between Tori and Candy. If it continues, I think I'll have to start watching something else.
paris phillippe66
Tori, doesn't treat her mom badly. What show are you watching? She loves her mom, misses her, and desperately wants her in her children's lives. that is what i get out of it. anyway, it is now in overkill, too much about her mom, almost takes over the show, and now it is frustrating to listen to tori complain over and over again and in front of the kids. adult talk should not be done in front of the kids., and really dean is non supportive of candy anyway, and rightfully so..
got to tell tori and dean, stop feeding liam so much sweets, cake, cookies, no good, why are you getting him so interested in that taste., how doyou escpect him to over come that taste, please stop now and give him apples, carrots, healthy stuff please.
TrudyTramaine
um..
she's showing us her life. and in her life those are the things she goes through. it doens't mean she's trying to play the 'victim'.
i didn't get that at all. but maybe it's just me being oblivious.
hayley34
QUOTE (Appalled @ Jul 26 2009, 07:13 PM) *
I don't think Candy was looking for publicity. Tori's just using the drama to ratchet her ratings. She's shameless.


ARE U PEOPLE 4 REAL ? Do u work for candy spelling or waht ? Becuz that's what it sounds like to me. Do u know what it's like 2 have a MOTHER LIKE THIS / THIS CANDY SPELLING SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF.PERIOD. END OF STORY. SHE SHOULD BE THANKFUL & GRATEFUL TORU EVEN EXTENDED AND DID THE RIGHT THING AND INVITED HER TO STELLA'S PARTY & WHAT DOES SHE DO ? SURPRISE SURPRISE. SHE PULLS A "NO-SHOW". GRANDMOTHERS/MOTHERS DO NOT TREAT THEIR CHILDREN LIKE THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. AND SHE HAS THE ODACITY TO PUT A PUBLIC LETTER AND LET'S TMZ POST IT ? AND TORI'S IN THE WRONG ? GET REAL. TORI SIN'T THE ONE POSTING PERSONAL LETTERS TO TMZ AND DEGRADING HER "ONLY" DAUGHTER FOR THE WHOLE WORLD 2 SEE. SO REALLY U OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO WORK FOR MRS.SPELLING IN ORDER TO THINK&TYPE JUNK LIKE THIS. THAT'S WHAT IT IS.JUNK/CRAP. A DAUGHTER CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH AND JUST LET GO. CANDY ONCE AGAIN IS ONE SELF-CENTERED BITCH THAT NEEDS A SLAP.THIS WOMAN IS PATHETIC and does not deserve the title "mpther". Just because she gave birth to Tori doesn't give her the right to treat Tori like poo.
hayley34
QUOTE (Appalled @ Jul 26 2009, 07:13 PM) *
I don't think Candy was looking for publicity. Tori's just using the drama to ratchet her ratings. She's shameless.


ARE U PEOPLE 4 REAL ? Do u work for candy spelling or waht ? Becuz that's what it sounds like to me. Do u know what it's like 2 have a MOTHER LIKE THIS / THIS CANDY SPELLING SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF.PERIOD. END OF STORY. SHE SHOULD BE THANKFUL & GRATEFUL TORI EVEN EXTENDED AND DID THE RIGHT THING AND INVITED HER TO STELLA'S PARTY & WHAT DOES SHE DO ? SURPRISE SURPRISE. SHE PULLS A "NO-SHOW". GRANDMOTHERS/MOTHERS DO NOT TREAT THEIR CHILDREN LIKE THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. AND SHE HAS THE ODACITY TO PUT A PUBLIC LETTER AND LET'S TMZ POST IT ? AND TORI'S IN THE WRONG ? GET REAL. TORI SIN'T THE ONE POSTING PERSONAL LETTERS TO TMZ AND DEGRADING HER "ONLY" DAUGHTER FOR THE WHOLE WORLD 2 SEE. SO REALLY U OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO WORK FOR MRS.SPELLING IN ORDER TO THINK&TYPE JUNK LIKE THIS. THAT'S WHAT IT IS.JUNK/CRAP. A DAUGHTER CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH AND JUST LET GO. CANDY ONCE AGAIN IS ONE SELF-CENTERED BITCH THAT NEEDS A SLAP.THIS WOMAN IS PATHETIC and does not deserve the title "mother". Just because she gave birth to Tori doesn't give her the right to treat Tori like poo.
chilicheese
QUOTE (coreylee @ Jul 26 2009, 04:09 PM) *
Hey Tori .........

I think your show is fun and I love the babies ...so cute ! However in my opinion.....would you please consider not putting down your mom on your show every chance you get please ? What ever happened between the two of you is between the two of you . I think it's getting old and you are not looking good doing it . Watching the show you have yet to give a decent example of exactly what it is she did to you that makes her deserve the character slaughter from you . I am starting to feel bad for her and the horrible way you treat her and the rotten example you are setting for your kids . You are not coming off as a victim at this point .
If you insist on continuing ..at least give us , the audience a good reason to support the defamation ..

NoBigDeal
QUOTE (Appalled @ Jul 27 2009, 12:13 AM) *
I don't think Candy was looking for publicity. Tori's just using the drama to ratchet her ratings. She's shameless.



Sometimes I wonder about that...is this all for ratings?
chilicheese
I did enjoy this show but Tori has issues. She has consistently stated that she would not play out her relationship with her mother in the media. The hosts of the View, specifically Barbara Walters wanted to help her and her mother and she said "it has to be me and her.". Okay, WHY would you then create a whole show, promote it, and make your mother an issue? If Tori TRUELY wanted a relationship between her mother and her children she could have simply had her TV party for Stella but then outside of the cameras she could have had a meeting between her mother and the children. But NO.....she turns the whole thing into a circus.

I do not dislike Tori or Dean. But come on people. Look at the facts. I don't her blame her mother for her open letter to TMZ. Tori is on a smear campaign against her mother and it is VERY OBVIOUS.

I think both Tori and her mother are at fault and unfortunately the children are the ones who suffer.

There was no need for Tori to turn Stella's party into a battle with her mother. Especially after she said she ddn't want it to play out in the media. No, she wanted to save it for her reality TV show. That's so sad........
princesa

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How come the brother is never in the show?, how come he is never playing with Tori's children? how come she never cries about not seeing him?
The last two shows were just about the mom.
I cant believe Tori can not get the phone and call her mom, she is ALWAYS talking about her in the show, daughters should never judge parents.
Someday your daughter is going to grow up, maybe she is not going to like that you Tori showed her on tv, maybe she is not going to like many things about you, you talked about your mom in your book giving you soooooooo many things and no letting you grow like a normal girl, is Stella growing like a normal girl?.........maybe someday you two will fight and you will have to call her or visit her because DAUGHTERS CAN NOT CALL THEIR MOTHERS TO TELL THEM HOW MUCH They LOVE THEM
Grow up Tori, talk to your mom, you are a mom now, you probably think that you are doing a agreat job but you dont know what Stella is going to think about this LATER>


QUOTE (chilicheese @ Aug 4 2009, 10:23 PM) *
I did enjoy this show but Tori has issues. She has consistently stated that she would not play out her relationship with her mother in the media. The hosts of the View, specifically Barbara Walters wanted to help her and her mother and she said "it has to be me I guess the point is it's a show about TORI'S life ,not Candy's .The baiting of her mother to participate and to create a huge storyline when it is clear the mother wants nothing to do with being on camera is clearly not a sincere form of love . It's just not nice . It's rude and self serving . ( ratings)
Just my opinion in case she reads this .
I often wonder why her brother is not even " mentioned" . and her.". Okay, WHY would you then create a whole show, promote it, and make your mother an issue? If Tori TRUELY wanted a relationship between her mother and her children she could have simply had her TV party for Stella but then outside of the cameras she could have had a meeting between her mother and the children. But NO.....she turns the whole thing into a circus.

I do not dislike Tori or Dean. But come on people. Look at the facts. I don't her blame her mother for her open letter to TMZ. Tori is on a smear campaign against her mother and it is VERY OBVIOUS.

I think both Tori and her mother are at fault and unfortunately the children are the ones who suffer.

There was no need for Tori to turn Stella's party into a battle with her mother. Especially after she said she ddn't want it to play out in the media. No, she wanted to save it for her reality TV show. That's so sad........

hayley34
QUOTE (chilicheese @ Aug 4 2009, 09:23 PM) *
I did enjoy this show but Tori has issues. She has consistently stated that she would not play out her relationship with her mother in the media. The hosts of the View, specifically Barbara Walters wanted to help her and her mother and she said "it has to be me and her.". Okay, WHY would you then create a whole show, promote it, and make your mother an issue? If Tori TRUELY wanted a relationship between her mother and her children she could have simply had her TV party for Stella but then outside of the cameras she could have had a meeting between her mother and the children. But NO.....she turns the whole thing into a circus.

I do not dislike Tori or Dean. But come on people. Look at the facts. I don't her blame her mother for her open letter to TMZ. Tori is on a smear campaign against her mother and it is VERY OBVIOUS.

I think both Tori and her mother are at fault and unfortunately the children are the ones who suffer.

There was no need for Tori to turn Stella's party into a battle with her mother. Especially after she said she ddn't want it to play out in the media. No, she wanted to save it for her reality TV show. That's so sad........


WHAT ARE U TALKING ABOUT ? I HAVE BEEN THERE & DONE THAT. SO UNLESS YOU'VE BEEN IN TORI'S SHOES DON'T GO JUDGING UNLESS YOU'RE GOD.Media or not Candy is not a mother/grandmother and she is the WORST EXAMPLE I HAVE EVER SEEN. Candy should be grateful that Tori even extended/reached out to her in the name of "FAMILY". CANDY HAS TO USE TMZ-THE WORST DIRT RAG MAGAZINE TO DO HER DIRTY WORK ? GOOD LORD, IF YOU THINK STILL THAT CANDY IS MOTHER OF THE YEAR WELL THEN I DON'T EVEN WANT TO IMAGINE IN THE HOME YOU WERE BROUGHT UP IN. Candy Spelling is no better than MOMMY DEAREST. AND SHE DOES NOTHING I HAVE SEEN TO MAKE HERSELF LOOK ANYTHING BUT. Tori's life is much better without this moneyhungry thing. Just because she gave birth to Tori doesn't mean Tori has to keep enduring pain from that woman.Her children don't need/or should see this heartache MOMMY DEAREST KEEPS PUTTING UPON HER ONLY DAUGHTER. LIFE IS TOO SHORT. AND CANDY KNOWS THIS.SAD SAD SAD.
hayley34
QUOTE (chilicheese @ Aug 4 2009, 09:23 PM) *
I did enjoy this show but Tori has issues. She has consistently stated that she would not play out her relationship with her mother in the media. The hosts of the View, specifically Barbara Walters wanted to help her and her mother and she said "it has to be me and her.". Okay, WHY would you then create a whole show, promote it, and make your mother an issue? If Tori TRUELY wanted a relationship between her mother and her children she could have simply had her TV party for Stella but then outside of the cameras she could have had a meeting between her mother and the children. But NO.....she turns the whole thing into a circus.

I do not dislike Tori or Dean. But come on people. Look at the facts. I don't her blame her mother for her open letter to TMZ. Tori is on a smear campaign against her mother and it is VERY OBVIOUS.

I think both Tori and her mother are at fault and unfortunately the children are the ones who suffer.

There was no need for Tori to turn Stella's party into a battle with her mother. Especially after she said she ddn't want it to play out in the media. No, she wanted to save it for her reality TV show. That's so sad........


I can't believe the heartless crap you can type. Would you treat your own children like this then in the future ? I hope not, because it would suck to be you. Your above paragraph keeps contradicting yourself ? I don't get it. MEDIA OR NOT NOTHING WOULD STOP A LOVING MOTHER/GRANDDAUGHTER FROM MAKING THAT CONNECTION. LIFE IS TOO SHORT. I HOPE CANDY/TORI DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A HUGE LOSS AS SUCH AS I HAVE. I WAS IN A BAD CAR ACCIDENT 5 YRS AGO AND A HIT-N-RUN DRIVER HIT MY CAR WITH SUCH FORCE MY 4 YR OLD DAUGHTER WAS INSTANTLY KILLED & WE WERE ALL LEFT IN A FIELD FOR DEAD. OUT OF 6 OF US ONLY MY PRECIOUS GIRL DID NOT MAKE IT.So you see LIFE IS WAY TOO SHORT. And I see the wrong person here is OBVIOUSLY CANDY SPELLING.Tori has done nothing but try to be a daughter and candy just keeps degrading her & now with this open letter to TMZ SHOWS HER TRUE CHARACTER. FAMILY IS SO IMPORTANT.CANDY IS NOTHING BUT A PERSON WHO GAVE TORI LIFE & NOW SHE IS PUBLICLY TRYING VERY HARD TO DESTROY HERS. THANK GOD Dean,liam,stella are there.NOT TO MENTION ALL THE FRIENDS THAT MAKE UP FOR THE ABSENCE OF HER BLOOD RELATIVES. Life goes by too quickly for a mother/grandmother to be so harsh.Grow up Candy and take responsibility.
hayley34
QUOTE (hayley34 @ Aug 4 2009, 09:16 PM) *
ARE U PEOPLE 4 REAL ? Do u work for candy spelling or waht ? Becuz that's what it sounds like to me. Do u know what it's like 2 have a MOTHER LIKE THIS / THIS CANDY SPELLING SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF.PERIOD. END OF STORY. SHE SHOULD BE THANKFUL & GRATEFUL TORI EVEN EXTENDED AND DID THE RIGHT THING AND INVITED HER TO STELLA'S PARTY & WHAT DOES SHE DO ? SURPRISE SURPRISE. SHE PULLS A "NO-SHOW". GRANDMOTHERS/MOTHERS DO NOT TREAT THEIR CHILDREN LIKE THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. AND SHE HAS THE ODACITY TO PUT A PUBLIC LETTER AND LET'S TMZ POST IT ? AND TORI'S IN THE WRONG ? GET REAL. TORI SIN'T THE ONE POSTING PERSONAL LETTERS TO TMZ AND DEGRADING HER "ONLY" DAUGHTER FOR THE WHOLE WORLD 2 SEE. SO REALLY U OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO WORK FOR MRS.SPELLING IN ORDER TO THINK&TYPE JUNK LIKE THIS. THAT'S WHAT IT IS.JUNK/CRAP. A DAUGHTER CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH AND JUST LET GO. CANDY ONCE AGAIN IS ONE SELF-CENTERED BITCH THAT NEEDS A SLAP.THIS WOMAN IS PATHETIC and does not deserve the title "mother". Just because she gave birth to Tori doesn't give her the right to treat Tori like poo.


I think using TMZ AS A DIRTY WAY TO DO YOUR DIRTY WORK WAS WHEN I REALIZED CANDY SPELLING IS OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HERE. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING EVERY INCH OF THIS WITHOUT TAKING SIDES & I CAN'T BELIEVE A WOMAN OF HER AGE IS DOING THIS TO HER OWN FLESH & BLOOD. Tori is sooo lucky to have such a strong,loving husband and her 2 beautiful children that i hope don't have to watch their supposedly wicked grandmother destroy & continue to publicly lash at them. When CANDY/MOMMY DEAREST DECIDED TO INCLUDE DEAN/LIAM/STELLA'S NAME ON HER OPEN LETTER ON TMZ~ THAT SHOULD OF ENDED ANY HOPE/CHANCE OF RECONCILLIATION.BUT, TORI BEING THE GOOD DAUGHTER SHE HAS BEEN ONCE AGAIN REACHED OUT TO CANDY AND SURPRISE SURPRISE WAS TOLD SHE WASN'T COMING TO STELLA'S BDAY. DEAN WAS RIGHT. AND TORI'S FRIENDS TRIED TO SYMPATHIZE/SUPPORT BUT THEY ALSO KNEW JUST AS WELL AS DEAN THAT IT WOULDN'T WORK ABD THEY WERE RIGHT. CANDY WILL REGRET THIS AND GUES WHAT ? TORI WILL BE OUT OF EXCUSES TO COME UP WITH TO DEFEND THIS WOMAN WHO DOESN'T DESERVE THE TITLE MOTHER/GRANDMOTHER. TORI~DON'T LET HEARTLESS PEOPLE SUCH AS THESE ABOVE GET YOU DOWN ON WHAT YOU TRIED/ATTEMPT.YOU ARE A WONDERFUL PERSON/MOTHER. AND I THINK BY THE LOOKS OF IT YOU WILL BE A FANTASTIC GRANDMOTHER LIAM & STELLA WILL BE SO PROUD OF!!! CAN'T WAIT FOR ANOTHER SEASON !!!!!!!!!!!!I HOPE THERE IS ONE ?
hayley34
QUOTE (hayley34 @ Aug 4 2009, 09:16 PM) *
ARE U PEOPLE 4 REAL ? Do u work for candy spelling or waht ? Becuz that's what it sounds like to me. Do u know what it's like 2 have a MOTHER LIKE THIS / THIS CANDY SPELLING SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF.PERIOD. END OF STORY. SHE SHOULD BE THANKFUL & GRATEFUL TORI EVEN EXTENDED AND DID THE RIGHT THING AND INVITED HER TO STELLA'S PARTY & WHAT DOES SHE DO ? SURPRISE SURPRISE. SHE PULLS A "NO-SHOW". GRANDMOTHERS/MOTHERS DO NOT TREAT THEIR CHILDREN LIKE THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. AND SHE HAS THE ODACITY TO PUT A PUBLIC LETTER AND LET'S TMZ POST IT ? AND TORI'S IN THE WRONG ? GET REAL. TORI SIN'T THE ONE POSTING PERSONAL LETTERS TO TMZ AND DEGRADING HER "ONLY" DAUGHTER FOR THE WHOLE WORLD 2 SEE. SO REALLY U OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO WORK FOR MRS.SPELLING IN ORDER TO THINK&TYPE JUNK LIKE THIS. THAT'S WHAT IT IS.JUNK/CRAP. A DAUGHTER CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH AND JUST LET GO. CANDY ONCE AGAIN IS ONE SELF-CENTERED BITCH THAT NEEDS A SLAP.THIS WOMAN IS PATHETIC and does not deserve the title "mother". Just because she gave birth to Tori doesn't give her the right to treat Tori like poo.


I think using TMZ AS A DIRTY WAY TO DO YOUR DIRTY WORK WAS WHEN I REALIZED CANDY SPELLING IS OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HERE. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING EVERY INCH OF THIS WITHOUT TAKING SIDES & I CAN'T BELIEVE A WOMAN OF HER AGE IS DOING THIS TO HER OWN FLESH & BLOOD. Tori is sooo lucky to have such a strong,loving husband and her 2 beautiful children that i hope don't have to watch their supposedly wicked grandmother destroy & continue to publicly lash at them. When CANDY/MOMMY DEAREST DECIDED TO INCLUDE DEAN/LIAM/STELLA'S NAME ON HER OPEN LETTER ON TMZ~ THAT SHOULD OF ENDED ANY HOPE/CHANCE OF RECONCILLIATION.BUT, TORI BEING THE GOOD DAUGHTER SHE HAS BEEN ONCE AGAIN REACHED OUT TO CANDY AND SURPRISE SURPRISE WAS TOLD SHE WASN'T COMING TO STELLA'S BDAY. DEAN WAS RIGHT. AND TORI'S FRIENDS TRIED TO SYMPATHIZE/SUPPORT BUT THEY ALSO KNEW JUST AS WELL AS DEAN THAT IT WOULDN'T WORK AND THEY WERE RIGHT. CANDY WILL REGRET THIS AND GUESS WHAT ? TORI WILL BE OUT OF EXCUSES TO COME UP WITH TO DEFEND THIS WOMAN WHO DOESN'T DESERVE THE TITLE MOTHER/GRANDMOTHER. TORI~DON'T LET HEARTLESS PEOPLE SUCH AS THESE ABOVE GET YOU DOWN ON WHAT YOU TRIED/ATTEMPT.YOU ARE A WONDERFUL PERSON/MOTHER. AND I THINK BY THE LOOKS OF IT YOU WILL BE A FANTASTIC GRANDMOTHER LIAM & STELLA WILL BE SO PROUD OF!!! CAN'T WAIT FOR ANOTHER SEASON !!!!!!!!!!!!I HOPE THERE IS ONE ?
Cami D
Unless u have a rocky relationship with a parent u really have no idea how heavy it weighs on your heart! i have a similiar relationship with one of my parents and after u become a parent yourself i think it makes it even harder, u want the best for your own children and don't understand how your own parent can act so childish. Even through all the stuff, u just want them to be there for their grandchildren and can't understand unless you've experienced it yourself. All i can say is Tori, all the drama you've been through, its not all bad cause its made u an amazing parent. U can take the good and the bad that u experienced for Stella and Liam. U can take all the traditions u loved and pass them onto your children and the bad to avoid. U and Dean are doing great as parents and i think a lot of parents can learn from u two! I have a daughter who will be 3 next month and can't wait for Little Maven to come out this fall. Keep up all your hard work, u take being a working mother to a whole other level!
bulbous
I don't blame Candy for not showing up. If Tori wants her to see the kids it should take place OFF CAMERA. But Tori's a publicity ***** and it will never happen. I side with Candy on this one.

I predict Tori and Dean are divorced in 2 years. Of course he's such an airhead he'll never know the difference!

what a train wreck they are. Makes for good tv.
KariAna
It is possible your point of view makes a bit

of sense except for one thing. Stella's birthday

party happened back in June. The reply Tori made

IN PRIVATE after her Mother RSVP'd she'd come then

just did a NO SHOW and then sent Tori an email AFTER

THE FACT then she waited until THE DAY OF THE FIRST

OF THE TWO PARTED STELLA BIRTHDAY EPISODES,

shows that it is CANDY who is using the media to fight

in public with Tori. The NO SHOW happened two months

ago. She waits over a month, long after Tori replied

privately to explain how she feels. Candy is the only

one using publicity. Tori was talking on her show both

good and bad about her Mother. She is always talking

about the things about her, Tori, that are like Candy as

well as those she is not like Tori. The real kicker is Uncle

Danny. His own words, To see you so hands on with your

children, considering how you were raised, is so great. I didn't

apply quotes because I don't have exact words, but that is the

gist of what he said. Also, if Tori is just playing for the camera

why was the sad yet extremely touching goodbye to Patsy showed

very clearly how real Tori is to those around her. That much love

cannot be faked by those not trained in acting like Patsy.

Kari Ana



QUOTE (bulbous @ Aug 5 2009, 12:09 PM) *
I don't blame Candy for not showing up. If Tori wants her to see the kids it should take place OFF CAMERA. But Tori's a publicity ***** and it will never happen. I side with Candy on this one.

I predict Tori and Dean are divorced in 2 years. Of course he's such an airhead he'll never know the difference!

what a train wreck they are. Makes for good tv.

Appalled
QUOTE (KariAna @ Aug 5 2009, 02:48 PM) *
Candy is the only one using publicity.


Yeah, right. Who made a two-part finale based on the whole thing? Someone who's savvy about ratings.
KariAna

Thanks for the heads up about someone's reply

to my post. I have blocked the person so didn't

reply.

I will state once more, maybe I didn't say it right

the first time.

Toward the end of the show, after the no show and

the email Tori received from her Mother Tori was

talking about what she should do. At one point she

stated that she knew what she was going to do.

She then said that she was going to stop talking about

it, and write to her Mother, Privately.

This was what I meant when I wrote previously that

Tori was not using her show to communicate with her

Mother. She made a sound decision, and did exactly

that. What is sad is that this clearly happened last June.

The private reply from Tori to her Mother. Still, after

writing Candy privately, Candi then sent the mean public

letter to TMZ as an open letter to Tori. So tacky. It was

Candy who waited until the first show of two parts. Another

sad thing is that Tori has said so many nice things about

Candy this season. She has mentioned how she is like Candy.

It boggles the mind how Candy can believe Tori is just trashing

her after all the nice things Tori has said. I admit I understand

how Tori feels because my Dad is a lot like Candy, thinking all

I ever say is negative when I say many nice things about him.

Of course none of this on my part is public. My Dad would openly

trash me to anyone who every mentioned to him that they were

my friends or knew me. I feel badly for my Dad but I don't

need his approval anymore, thank goodness. It boggles the mind

how sick Candy is. Had she felt she could not go to the party then

she should have contacted Tori long before the part began. As we

saw the invitation went to Candy at the same time as everyone else's.

Also, the two part season finale was not about Candy. It was all about

Stella and it being her birthday. Tori spoke about her Mom by comparing

herself to her Mom praising Candy for her ability to throw parties. It is

so sad that Candy Spelling only hears the negative, just like my Dad.

So sad because children just want their parents to love them and approve

of them. Candy doesn't seem to be able to be a good Mom for Tori. I hope

she does better for her son.

Kari Ana
Appalled
Someone brought it to your attention. Oooookay.
urban_view
Please don't get me wrong, I think the show is very sweet and is a window, albeit controlled one, into the lives of a hollywood couple. But I do agree, the entire Candy story line is obviously thrown in for ratings and drama. If I were Tori's mother, I would have declined being a part of this public charade.
If there is a next season, they need to come up with something less annoying and contrived.
coreylee
QUOTE (urban_view @ Aug 6 2009, 11:17 AM) *
Please don't get me wrong, I think the show is very sweet and is a window, albeit controlled one, into the lives of a hollywood couple. But I do agree, the entire Candy story line is obviously thrown in for ratings and drama. If I were Tori's mother, I would have declined being a part of this public charade.
If there is a next season, they need to come up with something less annoying and contrived.



AMEN !

Please take note Oxygen !
maddie2
My, how quick you people are to judge !!! This is a reality show and the problems Tori has with her mother are real in her every day life !! Myself, like Tori, experiance the same things with my mother. It is the most devastating thing ever. Its on your mind constantly and effects you daily. Unless you have been there , you don't know! It's something you can never understand and you work your mind, constantly trying too figure it out, especially if you have children of your own because you know you could never treat your own children like that !!!
♥♥CocoChanel♥♥
QUOTE (KariAna @ Aug 6 2009, 02:41 AM) *
Thanks for the heads up about someone's reply

to my post. I have blocked the person so didn't

reply.

I will state once more, maybe I didn't say it right

the first time.

Toward the end of the show, after the no show and

the email Tori received from her Mother Tori was

talking about what she should do. At one point she

stated that she knew what she was going to do.

She then said that she was going to stop talking about

it, and write to her Mother, Privately.

This was what I meant when I wrote previously that

Tori was not using her show to communicate with her

Mother. She made a sound decision, and did exactly

that. What is sad is that this clearly happened last June.

The private reply from Tori to her Mother. Still, after

writing Candy privately, Candi then sent the mean public

letter to TMZ as an open letter to Tori. So tacky. It was

Candy who waited until the first show of two parts. Another

sad thing is that Tori has said so many nice things about

Candy this season. She has mentioned how she is like Candy.

It boggles the mind how Candy can believe Tori is just trashing

her after all the nice things Tori has said. I admit I understand

how Tori feels because my Dad is a lot like Candy, thinking all

I ever say is negative when I say many nice things about him.

Of course none of this on my part is public. My Dad would openly

trash me to anyone who every mentioned to him that they were

my friends or knew me. I feel badly for my Dad but I don't

need his approval anymore, thank goodness. It boggles the mind

how sick Candy is. Had she felt she could not go to the party then

she should have contacted Tori long before the part began. As we

saw the invitation went to Candy at the same time as everyone else's.

Also, the two part season finale was not about Candy. It was all about

Stella and it being her birthday. Tori spoke about her Mom by comparing

herself to her Mom praising Candy for her ability to throw parties. It is

so sad that Candy Spelling only hears the negative, just like my Dad.

So sad because children just want their parents to love them and approve

of them. Candy doesn't seem to be able to be a good Mom for Tori. I hope

she does better for her son.

Kari Ana

I don't see her being a better mom to Randy. He's a big mess.
♥♥CocoChanel♥♥
QUOTE (†BrooklynMama† @ Aug 12 2009, 04:36 PM) *
We don't see Randy much these days. I think I only remember seeing him on the original 90210 and maybe one movie?

He says he was the first person to sleep with Paris Hilton... I think that and being a Spelling is his only claim to fame, lol.

I saw him on a rehab show once...he was addicted to drugs and alcohol. The show only last for one season. He said growing up he was pretty much a loner in his family, and that's really sad.
♥♥CocoChanel♥♥
QUOTE (†BrooklynMama† @ Aug 12 2009, 05:49 PM) *
I had thought I had heard about him being in rehab.

It must have been so hard growing up in a 500 room house.... Poor Spelling kids sad.gif.

LOL. I guess so.
KariAna
I was hoping. I have no information about it.

I know Tori said the problems with her Mom

began when her Dad told Tori he loved her

more than anyone in the world, and Tori's

Mom overheard it. The jealousy began then.

Of course this was one side of the story.

Kari Ana


QUOTE (♥♥CocoChanel♥& @ Aug 12 2009, 09:30 AM) *
I don't see her being a better mom to Randy. He's a big mess.[/color][/color]

KariAna
Actually, Tori has said over and over again.

She was 17 years old when the 500 room house

was finished and they moved into it. She didn't

grow up in that house. Many time rich kids

have huge issues because money is all they have.

I realize the idea of never having money problems

feels like a dream to regular people. For kids

growing up with money, sometimes the parents are

so busy making the money the kids are just part of

the stuff they have. It is sad. Good thing Tori doesn't

seem to have those drug issues.

Kari Ana


QUOTE (†BrooklynMama† @ Aug 12 2009, 09:49 AM) *
I had thought I had heard about him being in rehab.

It must have been so hard growing up in a 500 room house.... Poor Spelling kids sad.gif.

♥♥CocoChanel♥♥
QUOTE (KariAna @ Aug 12 2009, 07:19 PM) *
I was hoping. I have no information about it.

I know Tori said the problems with her Mom

began when her Dad told Tori he loved her

more than anyone in the world, and Tori's

Mom overheard it. The jealousy began then.

Of course this was one side of the story.

Kari Ana

WOW, That's sad. A mothers love should be unconditional. Those are things A dad says to his daughter. To be jealous is flat out silly. Candy needs to grow up and act like A real mother.
coreylee
Randy Spelling has a career in personal coaching. He was in a tv series a couple of years ago called Sons of Hollywood with two of his freinds.
Soooooooo .....
Must have been someone else you ladies were thinking of , because he seems to have it together .

KIMMIEK
QUOTE (bulbous @ Aug 5 2009, 01:09 PM) *
I don't blame Candy for not showing up. If Tori wants her to see the kids it should take place OFF CAMERA. But Tori's a publicity ***** and it will never happen. I side with Candy on this one.

I predict Tori and Dean are divorced in 2 years. Of course he's such an airhead he'll never know the difference!

what a train wreck they are. Makes for good tv.

Why was Jack never invited to any of these parties? Isn't he the first child? Dean portrays himself so blessed and a wonderful FATHER to Liam /Stella what about Jack? Dean is so worried about making cracks against Candy( mother-in-law) he doesn't even know this woman. Dean needs to concentrate on his son JACK! NEVER INVITED. Why would a loving Father not include his first born to these events?

KIMMIEK
QUOTE (hayley34 @ Aug 5 2009, 10:35 AM) *
I think using TMZ AS A DIRTY WAY TO DO YOUR DIRTY WORK WAS WHEN I REALIZED CANDY SPELLING IS OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HERE. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING EVERY INCH OF THIS WITHOUT TAKING SIDES & I CAN'T BELIEVE A WOMAN OF HER AGE IS DOING THIS TO HER OWN FLESH & BLOOD. Tori is sooo lucky to have such a strong,loving husband and her 2 beautiful children that i hope don't have to watch their supposedly wicked grandmother destroy & continue to publicly lash at them. When CANDY/MOMMY DEAREST DECIDED TO INCLUDE DEAN/LIAM/STELLA'S NAME ON HER OPEN LETTER ON TMZ~ THAT SHOULD OF ENDED ANY HOPE/CHANCE OF RECONCILLIATION.BUT, TORI BEING THE GOOD DAUGHTER SHE HAS BEEN ONCE AGAIN REACHED OUT TO CANDY AND SURPRISE SURPRISE WAS TOLD SHE WASN'T COMING TO STELLA'S BDAY. DEAN WAS RIGHT. AND TORI'S FRIENDS TRIED TO SYMPATHIZE/SUPPORT BUT THEY ALSO KNEW JUST AS WELL AS DEAN THAT IT WOULDN'T WORK AND THEY WERE RIGHT. CANDY WILL REGRET THIS AND GUESS WHAT ? TORI WILL BE OUT OF EXCUSES TO COME UP WITH TO DEFEND THIS WOMAN WHO DOESN'T DESERVE THE TITLE MOTHER/GRANDMOTHER. TORI~DON'T LET HEARTLESS PEOPLE SUCH AS THESE ABOVE GET YOU DOWN ON WHAT YOU TRIED/ATTEMPT.YOU ARE A WONDERFUL PERSON/MOTHER. AND I THINK BY THE LOOKS OF IT YOU WILL BE A FANTASTIC GRANDMOTHER LIAM & STELLA WILL BE SO PROUD OF!!! CAN'T WAIT FOR ANOTHER SEASON !!!!!!!!!!!!I HOPE THERE IS ONE ?

♥♥CocoChanel♥♥
QUOTE (coreylee @ Aug 14 2009, 04:40 PM) *
Randy Spelling has a career in personal coaching. He was in a tv series a couple of years ago called Sons of Hollywood with two of his freinds.
Soooooooo .....
Must have been someone else you ladies were thinking of , because he seems to have it together .

I hope he does have it together now, but he didn't for awhile.


Sons of Hollywood tracks the daily lives of three scions of Hollywood: Randy Spelling, son of the prolific television producer, the late Aaron Spelling; Sean Stewart, son of music legend Rod Stewart; and rising talent manager David Weintraub.

At first glance these friends are living the dream – they boast impressive pedigrees, inside connections and outrageous social lives. But scratch under the surface and all that glitters is not necessarily gold. The series follows the trio as they attempt to step out from the imposing shadows of their parents and forge their own identities.

The series kicks off with the the three friends moving out of their family mansions and in together for the summer. Get unprecedented access to the raw drama and moments of true comedy the trio experiences as they try to carve their paths in the world. The series exposes the intimate relationship dynamics between the sons and their famous fathers, reveals day-to-day drama with friends and family, unmasks career pressures, takes a look at a personal struggle with sobriety and witnesses the tragedy that befalls Randy Spelling when his father passes away in the midst of filming the show.
senior
Hey guys, I'm a senior and I watch and love Tori and Dean. I had issues with my mother, and both my daughters have issues with me. When we become adults, we CHANGE. We look at our parents as adults and sometimes don't like what we see. Most people work around it. They value having a family and do the best they can to put up with those in the family they don't particularly care for. I am probably older than Tori's mother. I can see that she loved her daughter and spoiled her rotten. She also had her eccentricities, for which she is now being punished. Bottom line, if my daughter used the "f" word on me such as Tori did on her mom (see her book), I wouldn't pay for her wedding either. Her mother is a human being and has a right to protect herself. Now, as to Tori, I think she has a lot going for her and should just shut up about her mother. Yes, we would all like to see some sort of reconciliation, but that should really be a private thing, shouldn't it? It's all just drama for the show ratings anyway, right?
P.S. Tori's little boy looks just like Tori's mom.
Jcurran23
QUOTE (senior @ Aug 15 2009, 12:45 AM) *
Hey guys, I'm a senior and I watch and love Tori and Dean. I had issues with my mother, and both my daughters have issues with me. When we become adults, we CHANGE. We look at our parents as adults and sometimes don't like what we see. Most people work around it. They value having a family and do the best they can to put up with those in the family they don't particularly care for. I am probably older than Tori's mother. I can see that she loved her daughter and spoiled her rotten. She also had her eccentricities, for which she is now being punished. Bottom line, if my daughter used the "f" word on me such as Tori did on her mom (see her book), I wouldn't pay for her wedding either. Her mother is a human being and has a right to protect herself. Now, as to Tori, I think she has a lot going for her and should just shut up about her mother. Yes, we would all like to see some sort of reconciliation, but that should really be a private thing, shouldn't it? It's all just drama for the show ratings anyway, right?
P.S. Tori's little boy looks just like Tori's mom.


well said senior, thanks for shring your wisdom! If she wants her mother in her life, make it happen, if she doesn't then she should just cut her ties already. In the end the kids are going to be the ones to get hurt if they keep dragging this on.
KariAna
I have to say how surprising it is for

people to keep saying that Tori is

using her Mother for story lines for

her reality show.

Had Candy Spelling not made some

of the rudest accusations towards

Tori Spelling in April how much would

this season have been about Tori's

Mother Candy?????? Candy Spelling

justifies her not showing up for the birthday

part for Stella as being that she didn't wish

to be the punchline for Tori's show. Candy

Spelling said this today on Regis and Kathy Lee.

I find it appalling that anyone might suggest that

Tori is driving the storyline train as a way of

trying to get ratings at Candy Spelling's expense.

Candy Spelling is the one who keeps giving news

conferences trashing Tori Spelling. She did this

several times in the past year. Candy Spelling

also seems to be "Hearing" every thing Tori says

about her as negative when it wasn't all negative.

Had Candy Spelling wanted to meet Stella privately

without a camera, how difficult would it have been

for Candy to arrive at the party, send the driver to

get Tori and ask her for a few moments PRIVATELY

away from the cameras. She could have met Stella and

seen Liam. She would have had privacy. Instead Candy

Spelling simply doesn't come and sends a text message

to Tori. If these children were my Grandchildren and I

didn't wish to be on the show, I'd have done something

very much like that. An ALTERNATIVE CHOICE which

would have made Tori feel good and show Candy how

far she will go to have Candy in her children's lives.

All Candy Spelling ever does is go to media and trash

Tori. Nothing would stop me from see my Nieces and

Nephews and their children. I love them all. I had no

children therefore, no grandchildren. I have ten Great

Nieces and Nephews. Now they are all great, but I used

great with a CAPITOL G, because they are my nieces and

nephews kids. smile.gifsmile.gif Poor Tori. She maybe made mistakes

but at the end of this season Tori went into a private

room and answered the text message from Candy Spelling.

No one knows what she said or did. Since then all Candy

has done is continue to trash Tori to the media. No doubt

in my mind, Tori Spelling is a great Mom and a daughter

anyone would be proud of.

For those who believe Tori Spelling cannot act needs to

watch her shows without negative agenda. She also has

a lot of comedic timing any actor would be glad to have

Kari Ana
coreylee
QUOTE (senior @ Aug 14 2009, 04:45 PM) *
Hey guys, I'm a senior and I watch and love Tori and Dean. I had issues with my mother, and both my daughters have issues with me. When we become adults, we CHANGE. We look at our parents as adults and sometimes don't like what we see. Most people work around it. They value having a family and do the best they can to put up with those in the family they don't particularly care for. I am probably older than Tori's mother. I can see that she loved her daughter and spoiled her rotten. She also had her eccentricities, for which she is now being punished. Bottom line, if my daughter used the "f" word on me such as Tori did on her mom (see her book), I wouldn't pay for her wedding either. Her mother is a human being and has a right to protect herself. Now, as to Tori, I think she has a lot going for her and should just shut up about her mother. Yes, we would all like to see some sort of reconciliation, but that should really be a private thing, shouldn't it? It's all just drama for the show ratings anyway, right?
P.S. Tori's little boy looks just like Tori's mom.


.......Agreed ! And .....Hopefully Tori will get the message and see that people don't like it and move on to some other point of interest for her show
♥♥CocoChanel♥♥
Kari, So true. I agree.
coreylee
QUOTE (chilicheese @ Aug 4 2009, 07:23 PM) *
I did enjoy this show but Tori has issues. She has consistently stated that she would not play out her relationship with her mother in the media. The hosts of the View, specifically Barbara Walters wanted to help her and her mother and she said "it has to be me and her.". Okay, WHY would you then create a whole show, promote it, and make your mother an issue? If Tori TRUELY wanted a relationship between her mother and her children she could have simply had her TV party for Stella but then outside of the cameras she could have had a meeting between her mother and the children. But NO.....she turns the whole thing into a circus.

I do not dislike Tori or Dean. But come on people. Look at the facts. I don't her blame her mother for her open letter to TMZ. Tori is on a smear campaign against her mother and it is VERY OBVIOUS.

I think both Tori and her mother are at fault and unfortunately the children are the ones who suffer.

There was no need for Tori to turn Stella's party into a battle with her mother. Especially after she said she ddn't want it to play out in the media. No, she wanted to save it for her reality TV show. That's so sad........


This is a good example of why I started this thread and if you see this Tori , Please consider those of us who would like you to stop the Candy bashing . It really makes you look bad and you have so many cool things going for you that you don't need to keep this up.....

BUMP
senior
QUOTE (KariAna @ Aug 15 2009, 12:34 AM) *
I have to say how surprising it is for

people to keep saying that Tori is

using her Mother for story lines for

her reality show.

Had Candy Spelling not made some

of the rudest accusations towards

Tori Spelling in April how much would

this season have been about Tori's

Mother Candy?????? Candy Spelling

justifies her not showing up for the birthday

part for Stella as being that she didn't wish

to be the punchline for Tori's show. Candy

Spelling said this today on Regis and Kathy Lee.

I find it appalling that anyone might suggest that

Tori is driving the storyline train as a way of

trying to get ratings at Candy Spelling's expense.

Candy Spelling is the one who keeps giving news

conferences trashing Tori Spelling. She did this

several times in the past year. Candy Spelling

also seems to be "Hearing" every thing Tori says

about her as negative when it wasn't all negative.

Had Candy Spelling wanted to meet Stella privately

without a camera, how difficult would it have been

for Candy to arrive at the party, send the driver to

get Tori and ask her for a few moments PRIVATELY

away from the cameras. She could have met Stella and

seen Liam. She would have had privacy. Instead Candy

Spelling simply doesn't come and sends a text message

to Tori. If these children were my Grandchildren and I

didn't wish to be on the show, I'd have done something

very much like that. An ALTERNATIVE CHOICE which

would have made Tori feel good and show Candy how

far she will go to have Candy in her children's lives.

All Candy Spelling ever does is go to media and trash

Tori. Nothing would stop me from see my Nieces and

Nephews and their children. I love them all. I had no

children therefore, no grandchildren. I have ten Great

Nieces and Nephews. Now they are all great, but I used

great with a CAPITOL G, because they are my nieces and

nephews kids. smile.gifsmile.gif Poor Tori. She maybe made mistakes

but at the end of this season Tori went into a private

room and answered the text message from Candy Spelling.

No one knows what she said or did. Since then all Candy

has done is continue to trash Tori to the media. No doubt

in my mind, Tori Spelling is a great Mom and a daughter

anyone would be proud of.

For those who believe Tori Spelling cannot act needs to

watch her shows without negative agenda. She also has

a lot of comedic timing any actor would be glad to have

Kari Ana



Here's the thing, though: Tori chose to air her life on tv (and we do only see fractious chosen elements of it, after all). Her mother didn't, until all the public pressure pushed her into saying something. Human lives should be lived with an element of privacy. I'm glad you have enjoyed all your great nieces and nephews. However, the pain when children use or turn on their parents has no comparison. Most choose unconditional love, until they are pushed to the brink, at which their own survival is at stake. In the end, we are all just human and should quit judging others, especially if we do not even know them.
Appalled
QUOTE (senior @ Aug 15 2009, 09:18 AM) *
Here's the thing, though: Tori chose to air her life on tv (and we do only see fractious chosen elements of it, after all). Her mother didn't, until all the public pressure pushed her into saying something. Human lives should be lived with an element of privacy. I'm glad you have enjoyed all your great nieces and nephews. However, the pain when children use or turn on their parents has no comparison. Most choose unconditional love, until they are pushed to the brink, at which their own survival is at stake. In the end, we are all just human and should quit judging others, especially if we do not even know them.


Thank you.
Ms. Bee
[font="Georgia"][/font][color="#FF00FF"][/color]Hey Tori, I don't know if you even really read these but, Your F-ing mother I can't even belive her to treat her daughter with such disdain, I could never undrestand. Me and my mom don't really have the best of relationships but she is always there for me. She knows my son Nicholas she nurtured me through my preganancy (cravings and all) through 13 hours and 48 minuets of excrutiating labor, raising my son as a single mother I need her support more than anyone. I appreciate her and she loves me uncondiontally. I really wish that you knew the love and compaionship with your mom like I do mine. I know you are a very busy star But, I have a great listing ear and even though my realtionship with my mom may sound like sunshine and roses it hasn't been. I belive if you let me I could give you some very sound advice regarding your mom. This sounds sooo bad but your mom's an a**, She will never understand how great a person Dean is, how freaking amazing Stella and Liam are, and how good a person you are. I'm not a gay man(as i'm sure you realized by now) but I am a fan none the less and I just think it's crazy that, Like it seems like your mom's kinda jealous of you. She like probably hated that you and your dad were so close or the fact that she let the nanny raise you and your brother and she can't even let that go! My email in nmsith92080@yahoo.com if you want to email me, but like I said you probavly don't read these. Thanks anyway, Nina Smith
KariAna
So what? Yes, she did choose to have a show

one television. This does not negate what I have

said before. The very last episode of this season

Tori told Dean that she was going to stop talking

about her Mother and answer her email privately.

I have trouble believe some people even watch

the show because it is as if those who have taken

Candy's side didn't see it. Tori isn't perfect. She

never said she was perfect. Tori has made comments

about her Mother on her show. The thing is, if those

comments are more than just comments please explain

to me why Tori Spelling didn't do several episodes of

Tori crying and trying to get people's sympathy for the

things Candy Spelling said about how Aaron Spelling

died because of Tori's neglect? If all Tori wanted was

to use her Mother to get headlines why did she ignore

those accusations as well as so many more made by

Candy. Tori hasn't gone for the juggler the way Candy

has. Also, many of the things Tori has said about her Mother

are wonderful memories, like how her Mom used to hide

sea shells in the sand at the beach and then bring Tori and

Randy to find them, how much she loves continuing the

tradition of big special birthdays for the kids. Not all of

the things Tori has spoken about have been negative. I

have not heard one word from Candy Spelling praising

Tori for anything. Wait, she says she loves her Grandchildren

which is something good Tori has done but she has never said

it that way. All Candy does is make rude accusations to the media

instead of sending private email to Tori. No matter how old your kids

get it is the Mother who is supposed to love the child with unconditional

love. The bond with the child is also something that should have been

a bond created with the Mother. Tori's Mother left her Nanny to do

most of the work of raising Tori. The thing is, Tori is stressing about

her Mom because the bond does exist despite the Nanny. Maybe

Candy should wake up and smell the coffee. Tori is willing to let her

see her Grand kids. All she has to do is swallow her pride and ask to

see the children. If one of my nieces invited me to one of birthday

parties for one of their kids my first thought would not be about

my hair or what I will wear. It would be, I wonder what he/she

wants for their birthday, and I hope I get some real one of one

quality time with them. Seeing the young children family members

is NOT ABOUT ME, IT IS ABOUT THEM. I am the adult and should

act accordingly.

Kari Ana



QUOTE (senior @ Aug 15 2009, 07:18 AM) *
Here's the thing, though: Tori chose to air her life on tv (and we do only see fractious chosen elements of it, after all). Her mother didn't, until all the public pressure pushed her into saying something. Human lives should be lived with an element of privacy. I'm glad you have enjoyed all your great nieces and nephews. However, the pain when children use or turn on their parents has no comparison. Most choose unconditional love, until they are pushed to the brink, at which their own survival is at stake. In the end, we are all just human and should quit judging others, especially if we do not even know them.

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